Yeah, don’t overthink it, Grace. It’s not worth it.

“It’s different for everyone,” he says. “My first success took one very intense trip into his Hell loop. But I wasn’t actually trying with that one, and I think he was a relatively easy case, if anyone can be considered easy. He wanted redemption, he just needed a nudge to it. Arguably, I’m the longest case, if you count from Dad kicking me out of the Silver City to the day I busted back in.”

He says this thoughtfully, as if it’s the first time he’s really considering how long it takes.